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  • October 1, 2001 at 4:00 am #27916

    Terry
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    What are the qualifications that you are familiar with for a Master Black Belt?  I understand the lack of standards in the Six Sigma arena.
    I’ve met a few individuals recently who had “Master Black Belt” on their business cards.  One had never completed Black Belt training, one mentioned (vaguely) that he attended additional training at GE and gave himself the title, and another completed what I deem to be a structured 2 week program above-and-beyond Black Belt training + several years of demonstrated experience as a Black Belt mentor, trainer and professional.

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    October 1, 2001 at 4:00 am #69016

    Jim Johnson
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    The third one.

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    October 1, 2001 at 4:00 am #69018

    EPS
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    These are the requirements at my company:
    1) Complete BB training (4 weeks) + complete 2 projects as a BB + apply and obtain BB certification.
    If #1 is not complete, you can not continue with the MBB training.
    2) Complete MBB training (2 weeks) + complete instructor internship (certain number of weeks teaching GB and BB) + mentorship
    These elements shall be covered in order to apply for the certification.

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    October 1, 2001 at 4:00 am #69020

    denton
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    Our requirements are more stringent than any mentioned so far.  Our MBB training was 4 weeks, after completion of BB certification.  We have a project requirement, a mentoring requirement, a teaching requirement, and a fairly brutal written exam.

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    October 2, 2001 at 4:00 am #69036

    SP
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    Im my company is same the EPS.

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69070

    BD
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    It sounds as though the postings so far outline the certification requirements at their respective companies….not the “qualifications” of the MBB.
    The qualifications tend to vary. They usually include leadership experience, financial acumen, Six Sigma expertise (e.g. Proven successful BB experience), and a natural gift for mentoring and energizing.Certification requirements are typically that of the BB plus train-the-trainer training, mentoring of 10-20 projects that save a thresh-hold of money ($1,000,000) and a DPMO reduction goal, teach several BB or GB courses with a minimum feedback level requirement. The certification requirements listed are a combination of those used in GE (Plastics) and J&J.

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69071

    Mary Ann O. Guilatco
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    MBB has two levels in our organization:
    Level 1  – means being a certified BB (completed 2 projects after attending a 4-week BB training and passing the certification exam plus having completed a 3-level leadership training) and have attended a 2-week MBB training and have conducted a BB training together with a certified MBB. 
    Level 2 – having completed level 1 plus another BB or mega project. Teach BB class fully and coach BB projects.
     

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69074

    Nick Logna
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    I would like to recomand this question be put forward to Motorolain or Motorola University. I personally have asked Motorolians, but sad to say many sitll have a vague idea of what a Master Black Bealt is all about. Neither do they have a clear picture of what 6 sigma is all about. Their only understanding is on saving cost.

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69080

    Mark Abbotoy
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    We have not yet developed the criteria for a Master Black Belt but in my opinion the requirements must include the following:
    1.  Successful BB training AND certification (2 projects & >$1,000,000 hard savings).
    2.  Leadership & Mentoring skills (some training may be required).
    3.  Advanced MB training – minimum 2 additional week with a special emphasis on Applied Statistics.  This is where many black belts need mentoring – on how and where to used advanced statistical tools.

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69081

    Thom
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    It looks like Terry has opened up a discussion that should generate a lot of activity.  I am also very interested in getting some semblance of standardization for the MBB.
    The Six Sigma methodology has been gradually evovling towards becoming a profession.  One of the nice things about professions are that roles and responsibilities are clearly and consistently defined.  We as a profession obviously do not have this for the MBB position.
    One way to approach this is to establish competency models based upon what we want the MBB to do for us.  In essence, what we want the MBB to do represents the Y(s) — the competency model, with defined skillsets and competencies, detail the X’s.
    I think that most would agree that the MBB plays a crucial role in any Six Sigma program — with strong and sufficient MBB staffing, a program becomes independent.  That is, the reliance upon the consultants is reduced.  It also provides another rung in the technical ladder for the Six Sigma profession.  With established competencies in required skill sets, you have a nice professional development tool.

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69085

    Brittain Ladd
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    I agree that there are a lot of loose standards in regards to MBB status. I am currently finishing up my Black Belt through the University of Texas (the four month program). The class is being taught be Gary Steel from Air Academy Associates. Once I complete the BB training I am going to Air Academy Associates in Colorado this December for the Master Black Belt training. Thankfully I will have already completed a project so I will have more than just academic exposure to Six Sigma. However, just because I complete the MBB training I have no doubt that I will need to complete 10 projects and mentor five BB at a minimum before I can start to call myself a MBB. I am fortunate to be working at the world’s largest craft retailer that has all kinds of areas that are ripe for Six Sigma so I will have plenty of proactice. I think to truly be called a MBB one would need to mentor with a MBB so that they can learn from someone who has actual in the field experience.

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69092

    BD
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    So Thom,
    How do they do it at Nokia?

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69095

    gt
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    In my world to become a MBB. We have to accomplish 3 items of the following list:
    1-completed 1 project and coach 4 agents projects
    2 -completed 2 projects and coach 3 agents projects
    3 -played a significant role in developping/delivering the training material
    4-coach champions in all phases
    5 -performed a leadership role in the developpement plan of the business
    GT, MBB

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69098

    howe
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    I’m a Project Manager with several multi-million dollar saves, none of which used the Black Belt methodology.  I thought the standard for Black Belts would be higher than $1MM.  Any reason why they aren’t?
    Also, I’m currently in Green Belt training at my company.  I expect my first project using this methodology to save more than $1MM.  Can I use this project to qualify for a Black Belt?
    Thanks.

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69100

    Keith
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    In our company a MBB candidate has to complete an internship in ordered to be a certified MBB.  Certified BB’s can apply for open MBB positions, and are selected based on leadership, coaching, and technical skills.  One selected for internship, the MBB candidates have to complete the following to be certified:

    Complete 3 weeks of MBB training, which includes technical tools and presentation, classroom, and coaching skills.
    Coach Black Belts through 20 DMAIC projects to successful completion.
    Coach 3 BB candidates through Black Belt certification
    Pass a 4 hour oral exam with a panel of MBB’s
     
     

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    October 4, 2001 at 4:00 am #69103

    abib
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    Stop asking their janitors and ask anyone who has been there in a professional position more than a year.

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    October 5, 2001 at 4:00 am #69121

    Ken K.
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    Boy, you obviously have a beef with Motorola or Motorola University.
    Here is a link for information on the current Motorola Black Belt Program:
    https://www.isixsigma.com/forum/showmessage.asp?messageID=4884

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    October 5, 2001 at 4:00 am #69107

    mcleod
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    I could not agree more.  However, I certainly understand why this is happening. 
    I just recently decided I wanted to achieve black belt status.  So, I looked on the web for what I thought would be an easy search.  Wrong,  I do not see an authoritative body combined with a structured study course and program to achieve the certification I was looking for.  Unfortunately, I do not see the rigorous preperation of any certification body.  I see Black Belt certification courses more as a “I got one too” effort.
    Oh, I do not doubt that there are some very good programs.  I just do not get the feeling that there is a concensus yet on what any of the belt certifications mean. 
    Just my opinion.
     

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    October 5, 2001 at 4:00 am #69119

    Ted S
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    I think one of the problems is with the question itself , as someone else pointed out, there are no performance standards set for a global deliverable. The implementation and thus the qualifications are dependent upon each company.
    We are technical experts, statisticians, methodology experts, coaching and training experts, business experts, change management experts, mentors, guides. We develop the programs, implement them and we direct them. We are limited in scope to project work and we are drawn into the restructuring of the business. We work with the VOC and just bounce around as cost cutters. We deal in variable process.. and a few work with transactional processes.
    The skill sets that are required in one location to be successful might not even get you in the door at the next. So what it comes down to… is in the implementation at your company.. in the definition of roles -what are the requirements. Then realize that if you go somewhere else.. at this time in the game.. all bets are off.

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    October 11, 2001 at 4:00 am #69174

    rahul kulkarni
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    sir
    please tell me where we will get the training for six sigma black belt??
    wht are the expenses???
    rahul

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    November 13, 2001 at 9:29 pm #69949

    Kimberly Oh
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    That is admirable for someone with a bum
    knee.

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